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The gas chambers problem
– Robert Faurisson – 1986 1/7

The audio is in French, but a translation is below





My name is Robert Faurisson. I am 52 years old. I am a professor at the university Lyon 2. In this university, I long time taught criticism of texts and documents. Criticism of texts and documents consists in a text, in an unspecified document, to distinguish or try to distinguish sense and nonsense, truth and forgery. That can consist in analyzing a photograph, to see what it is actually and what one seeks to make it say. I started to be interested in the gas chambers problem around 1960. I learned suddenly around 1960 two surprising news. (01:00)

1st is as follows: historians admitted that there had not existed in fact homicide gas chambers in all the camps located in the old Reich. God knows however if we had testimonies about gassings from Dachau, Ravensbruck, Oranienburg. Suddenly, we learned that in Dachau, that in Ravensbruck, that in Oranienburg, there had not been gassing. It was added however that there had been gassing in Poland. The second important news was as follows: around 1960 I learned that a former deportee by the name of Paul Rassinier had dared to declare "There has not either existed gas chambers in the camps of Poland. There were none in any NAZI camp". (02:00)

I was highly surprised by this assertion. I wanted to know some more. Thus, I read the work of Paul Rassinier. His work looked serious to me and it’s from 1974 that for my part, I went at fiercely to study texts, documents, photographs presented by those who said on the contrary "gas chambers existed". I went on the spot, to Poland. I went where we said to me "Here! An old gas chamber "or" Here! The ruins of an old gas chamber". I went to Auschwitz, I went to Maidanek. In France, I went near to Strasbourg or Struthof. In Austria, I went to Mauthausen. I studied thousands of documents, particularly in France,at the Centre de Documentation Juive Contemporaine (Contemporary Jewish Resource Centre). (03:00

And little by little, I ended at the following conclusion: It is Paul Rassinier who is right. There were never homicide gas chambers among Germans. Not even in Auschwitz, really in no camps. It is a grievous conclusion. It has worth me since 1978 many troubles. It was said that I was NAZI, I am not NAZI. It was said that I was insane, I do not think of being it. It was also said that I denied the existence of crematoriums and concentration camps. Well I keen on rectifying these errors. I will do it in the following way: I will say what on one hand for me really existed and what on the other hand did not exist. What really existed, is persecutions against the Jews and others. That it is the truth. (04:00

What is true is that a part of European Jews were sent to camps. It is true in particular for Jews who were established in France. The fourth were deported. The three-quarters of Jews established in France were not. It is also true that there were forced-labor camps and concentration camps. It is true that some of these camps hardly differed from prisons. I must say that for all those who had to undergo these sufferings, I have respect and compassion, and I ask you to believe me. I arrive at the crematoriums issue. They existed, it is true. Corpses there were burned. One can even affirm that where there were risks of epidemics, it was better to burn the corpses than to bury them. (05:00)

And God knows if in German camps, epidemics of typhus caused innumerable deaths during the war. I arrive now with what for me and many others authors, because I am far from being the only one now, did not exist. Well what did not exist, are the homicide gas chambers. These rooms did not exist where one would have made children, women, old men, men enter to asphyxiate them with gases, and in particular by a gas named Zyklon B. It is a rumor, a legend. Zyklon B existed. It exists since 1917 and we still use it all over the map today as a powerful disinfecting. But for technical reasons that I will explain to you, Germans did not use Zyklon B to kill anyone. (06:00)

Another serious question, did the genocide occure? I answer: no. This is a delicate matter. I would like to be well understood on that matter. Genocide would be the deliberated extermination of a human group because of its race. That would consist for example in saying: "You are a Jew? Very well, it is for me a sufficient reason to kill you". Well, one says that Hitler said that, and one says that the Germans did it. It is not in conformity with truth. First, we never found a text where Hitler said that. And one can not quote only one proof of genocide intentions. I recognize that in the last war as in any wars, there were horrors, crimes, massacres. (07:00

But massacres do not mean genocide. On the victorious side, as well as the vanquished side. But I do not see anything in the facts which prove the deliberated extermination on a human group, whatever it is. Think a little that if Hitler had wanted to kill all the Jews that he had under his hand, there would be no more European Jews today. There would be no old Auschwitz and so many other camps. There would not be, notably, children who for example were born in Auschwitz. I will show you documents. Since I want to go directly to the core of my subject, these documents will be limited primarily to Auschwitz. What you will do is to some extent a visit of Auschwitz. But I ask you to have in mind a question. (08:00)

This question is as follows: Were there yes or no according to what one shows me, gas chambers in Auschwitz? I warn you that the documents which I will present to you are especially from Polish or Soviet origin. There will also be photographs of we see today on the spot. But, it is by photographs of American origins that I will start. They relate to a true homicide gas chamber. I.e. an installation used to kill condemned people. You will see Baltimore’s gas chamber. And I will tell you why I believe it useful to proceed this way. It is that I can... want to show you the reality of things. I noticed indeed that one employs a lot the expression of gas chamber without making the effort to think of these words: gas chamber. (09:00)

One readily believes that a gas chamber could be for example a simple room, like a bedroom, where one would rub in gas. It is a serious error. A gas chamber is inevitably something extremely complicated. Gas is indeed a very difficult weapon to handle. As much as it can be easy to commit suicide with gas, as much as it is difficult to kill someone with gas without running oneself terrible risks. To the following day of the war of 14, the Americans said to themselves "Let’s try to find a human way to kill our condemned". And they said to themselves: "We will use the hydrocyanic acid which is a lethal gas. That will be easy! ". But it is when they wanted to proceed to the realization that they realized at which point it was difficult. And if I show you the gas chamber of Baltimore, where we use hydrocyanic acid to kill condemned, it is that precisely, can you imgaine, Zyklon B is actually hydrocyanic acid. You will see this Baltimore’s gas chamber. I will not give you explanations in details, I simply want to show you at which point it is complicated and at which point what one shows you in Poland, in Austria or elsewhere is absolutely ridiculous in comparison. And I warn you that the American gas chambers of which I speak go back to before the war. It is not a question of an American sophistication. I will content to show you 8 photographs of Baltimore’s gas chamber.

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(00:18)First photograph, here is the room where the execution witnesses are held. You can notice that the gas chamber is hexagonal. Here, three sides are visible. The door which is on the right gives on a corridor which on the left circumnavigates the 3 non visible sides on this photograph. And on the right it gives on 2 cabins: the doctor's one and the 2 operators' one. Know that for these operators it takes 2 working days to prepare the put in motion of the gas chamber. (01:00

As for the execution, it is held in 47 stages. I pass to the second photograph. Here one of the panes of the witnesses' room. Through this pane we see a powerful retaining steel pillar. The gas chamber as for the pillar are made out of steel and the panes are particularly thick. Why that? I will say it further to you. Here the third photograph: the condemned’s seat with its attachments. It is under the seat that the crucible, where the cyanide pellets are deposited, is. Outside the room, one operates a lever which makes these pellets fall in a sulfuric acid bath. On the right, on the ground, the netted comunication conduit with the machinery and the operators' cabin is visible. Fourth photograph: (02:00)

the entry door of the gas chamber. Notice as it is particularly heavy. It is closed with a flap to obtain a good airtight sealing. Fifth photograph: the same steel door seen on the hinges side. And here is why Americans employ steel and make their gas chambers so robust. It is to avoid the risk of implosion. Indeed, the risk of implosion comes from what is necessary for the day of the execution: to make vacuum to ensure the tightness of the joints. At the moment of the execution, it is necessary to make a partial vacuum. Initially to put the room in an under pressure state and to prevent that the gas does not tend to leave the room. Lastly, to increase the proportion of gas in the cockpit. On the left, we see the door of the doctor’s cabin. (03:00

the 6th photograph: at the top of the gas chamber you see the extractor. The ventilator if you want, that will extract the hydrocyanic acid to lead it towards a rompers or a purifier. The 7th photograph. At the bottom of the corridor, the rompers or purifier, it is where the hydrocyanic gas neutralization by ammonia and sodium carbonate is done. The residue will be diposed by a chimney located at the highest point of the penitentiary. One sees on the right the window of the cabin of the 2 operators. 8th and last photograph: the cabin of the 2 operators. Here some additional comments. I said to you that 47 different operations were needed. Some are simple but others are delicate. And I will take an example. (04:00)

The 47th operation is as follows. It consists says the rule, simply to remove the body. However, know that to remove the body it is necessary that the doctor and the 2 assistants waited nearly one hour to penetrate in the room and with gas masks. They are provided with a rubber apron and rubber gloves. The doctor shakes the hair of the corpse to drive out as much as possible the molecules of hydrocyanic acid which perhaps the ammonia fume and the system of directional ventilators did not neutralize. The 2 assistants, them, must wash the body with a water-jet. They must in particular wash the mouth, all the openings of the body and they must especially not forget the folds of the arms and knees. A gassed is a very delicate body to handle. (05:00)

The total of the operation lasts more than one hour whereas the condemned dies in a few minutes. To gas is not a sinecure as you can see. However, everything we will show you in Auschwitz and elsewhere is not serious in comparison. There are in questions simple rooms where no gassing was possible. Let us now go to Poland, to Auschwitz. And let us see what we are presented in fact of gas chamber. (The video cuts)…Soviet. It is not all of those who were interned in Auschwitz, but those who Germans had left on the spot, regarding them as too weak. I ask you, to try to distinguish each character, his clothing, his apparent health. Here another sight of these liberated of January 27. (06:00

The other ones had been brought by the Germans who did not want people able to work, or capable of enlisting in an army which would have fought against the Germans, to end in Russian’s hands. Here are other sights of weak people who were left on the spot. It is the Polish winter. Here a last sight, close to the preceding one. What did we do in Auschwitz? Well, Germans especially sought to exploit the workforce. Here the sewing shop for women. And there, you have a sight of the factories but a completely partial sight. Auschwitz was initially and most of all an enormous industrial complex. (07:00)

Moreover this part there, we call it: Auschwitz 3. I will insist on the following matter. One speaks to you about Auschwitz while insisting especially on its extreme secret nature. It is there that in very great secrecy people were executed. Think. Near the place where people would have been executed, here are these factories where internees rub elbows with themselves, as well as civil Poles or free workers. It would have been absurd to put factories of this kind so close to extremely secret death camps. Here you have a training workshop. The children who were more than 12 years old were trained by the Germans to become either spot welder, or mason, or something else. We arrive now on our principal subject, i.e. gas chamber. (08:00

You see here, what Poles call crematorium 1 pertaining to Auschwitz 1. It is an outdoor sight. On the left, you are supposed to have once that you penetrate in the place, the crematoriums’ room, and on the right the gas chamber. As for the chimney, it is a detail but it is built not starting from the roof but outwards. I’ll now show you the entry door of the alleged the gas chamber. It seems to me that we are well far from the American gas chambers, that there is no particular precaution. And that that resembles devilishly an air-raid shelter's door quite simply. Here is this same door, this time, opened. We penetrate in the room of the crematoriums. It is what today per million tourists visit. (09:00)

You see a double on your left, a double on your right. I had the curiosity to ask the following question to a person in charge of the museum. I said to him: "Are these furnaces authentic or are they reconstituted furnaces". He answered me: "Oh! These are authentic furnaces ". At that moment I passed my finger on the door of one of the crematoriums and I showed him that there was no soot trace. Then, piteously, he admitted in front of me that they were reconstituted furnaces. And it is from that moment that I had the idea of seeking the plans, not only of these furnaces, but of the alleged contiguous gas chamber. Indeed, I said to this...

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(00:11) person in charge: "If it is a reconstitution, there must have been workmen, engineers, architects indicating how it was necessary to proceed. I would like to find these photographs ". And it is like this that I managed to find the following documents. Here is the explanation which is given to tourists today. One says to them: "Here is the crematoriums’ room. The double furnace on the left, the double furnace on the right. And in this large room on the right, the gas chamber. The victims entered by the East door. (01:00)

There was an anteroom there. They passed by this anteroom, and it is there that people were transformed into corpses. Then the corpses were brought in the cremation room". It is at least the tale. When I went to research the plans, here is what I discovered. I can say that I uncovered the mystery. I discovered that in fact, this place had never existed such as one presents it at the tourists but had known 2 successive states. Here the 1st state, you notice that the room has a dead end. And what one can read on the plan is that here was the hull’s storeroom, here was the ballot boxes. (02:00)

There, what Germans call: leichenhalle, i.e. the cold room or the mortuary where bodies were placed. Then a room came which was called: waschraum, a washroom. And finally on the left, what Germans call aufbarunsraum i.e. the storeroom. The place where one could eventually come to see the body in its box. This is the first state. This place was in this way until July 1943. Then in July 1943 what happened? The Germans transformed this place. And from this crematorium, they made an air-raid shelter with a surgery room. (03:00

Indeed, the SS hospital was at 20 meters from there. And at this point in time they created this room with anteroom. And they created as you can notice it a succession of rooms of which the disposition is very characteristic of the air-raid shelter. And here was a surgery room. For the remainder, i.e. the crematoriums, this remainder was neutralized. So I repeat myself, what you see today is a fraud. The Poles left the anteroom to let believe that the victims penetrated by there then were burned in this room. Actually, there was a dead end as it is often the case in cold rooms. I pass to the following photograph. (04:00

Here is precisely the East door entry. And the small peephole gives simply on the interior of the anteroom. On your extreme right you will see a wooden door. It is all that there is of simpler. It is like an apartment door. You now have a sight of what tourists see starting from the East door. You will notice a detail which is very curious for a gas chamber. It is that at the far end is a glassed-in door. However if one would gas people in it, it would be very easy to break the pane and the gas would go elsewhere. You will also notice that the bottom of the walls is painted. How come that one painted the bottom of a gas chamber? (05:00)

As for the right-hand door, it gives directly on furnaces room. Perhaps you will notice, here, that it seems that sections of walls were cut down. You will see it better on other photographs. Here the same photograph but zoomed in. Still on the right, the room of the crematoriums. We are now in the other direction. We look towards the East door. See this simple door. And please note, firstly on the left: the direct access to the crematoriums room, and then, along the inner walls, the walls, you see that walls obviously were cut down. They are the walls of the air-raid shelter. (06:00

We are here on the roof. We have a simple hole, very coarsely made. It is by there that the SS would have poured Zyklon. It is a work which is really all that there is of briefer. Here I am raising the trap door by which the SS would have poured Zyklon. I repeat that Zyklon is hydrocyanic acid. It’s a gas that is very dangerous. It would have spreaded towards the SS hospital which was within 20 meters and on the other hand I do not understand how one could have used it, it which is flammable and explosive, near the crematoriums. Here is this same place by which the SS were supposed to throw the pellets of Zyklon. (07:00

It is an extremely simple work. Here chimneys which can make you impression but they are the chimneys of the laundry room. Lastly to end with Auschwitz 1, the principal camp, I present to you a view of the orchestra. An orchestra played, and played sometimes in white. And there existed in Auschwitz 1, and understand me well, I do not want to speak here, I do not want to say by that that it was a place for fun, but it existed there also a swimming pool which one does not show today to tourists. I finished, for the moment, with Auschwitz 1. I.e. with what visitors visit mainly in facts of gas chamber nowadays. We will now pass to Auschwitz 2 also called Birkenau. (08:01

B-I-R-K-E-N-A-U. It is the place par excellence where we expect to find formidable crematoriums called: Krema 2, Krema 3, Krema 4 and Krema 5 which we only see ruins today. We expect according to the legend to formidable death factories or at least, to formidable ruins, gigantic ruins. We will see what we find in fact. But before going immediately to these Krema 2, 3, 4 and 5, I will show you for the first time a true gas chamber, but hermetically-sealed I.e. being used to clean clothes. (09:00

The Germans made great use of it and there was some precisely in Auschwitz 2 or Birkenau. Here an autoclave for clothes. One would gas clothes. You will notice at which point this gas chamber, called in German Gaskammer, or Gasraum, seems infinitely more complicated as soon as it is a question of killing lice in clothing that when it is for Auschwitz 1 to kill men. The same autoclave seen from the other side. Here, we finally see the famous Krema 2, 3, 4 and 5. (10:00

At the top and on the left K 2, at the top and on the left K 3, at the and on the right K 4, at the top and on the right K 5. But we find a first surprise, it is that in this place which should have been extremely hidden, is found completely at the top of the plan, the sauna. I.e., the place where people showered. In front of...

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(00 10)... K 3 is an empty space. It was a football field, a sports ground. At the right of this empty space were the hospital installations of Auschwitz 2 or Birkenau which were, everyone agrees to say it, of an extreme modernism. And finally, on the right at the top before K 4 and K 5, you see a whole set of rudimentary shelters. It was what one called Canada, i.e. the place where one deposited any kind of objects belonging todeportees. Consequently, of whatever sides that one considers (01:00

the site of K 2, K 3, K 4 and K 5, one realizes that the place did not really have anything particularly secret, on the contrary. We even know that sometimes, when one played football, when the deportees played football, the ball could go in the court, in the court of Krema 3. Here, this Polish photograph, this sketch, is more honest than the precedent. It indicates indeed, if you notice it, the letters S-P. I.e. one notices you well here, honestly, in an edition that is rather recent that there was Sport Platz, a place for sport. Here these famous Krema 2 and Krema 3, I ask you to bring (02:00

much attention to their reading. Let us take crematorium 2. You have in black the part which came out of the ground. What is immediately on the right was the site of the chimney. Then, in the prolongation, in grayness you had a semi buried space which I will come back to. On the left, also a semi buried space. Let us pass now to crematorium 3. You see that it is built out of mirror with also the room which was the crematoriums, the site of the chimney. Then, in grey, this space at the North and this space on the right. Here we have a double photograph (03:00

that shows scenes of arrivals. People arrived sometimes, it was rare, in third class wagons but generally in the freight cars. Here another arrival of deportees which is rather known. It is there where occurred what we call: the selection. The whole is of knowing what was this: selection. On the right, you had the men. On the left, women and children. And, it is said to us that women and children went towards death, while the men went towards work. But what it is necessary to say, and what it is necessary to repeat with insistence, it is that Germans did not wanted children to come. It’s the governments of the respective countries from where took place the deportations which insisted, Laval for example insisted that the families would not be separated. (04:00

Germans, them, wanted people able to work. They wanted people able to, hum, to work, from 16 to 55 years old for example. Here another scene of arrival. Serge Klarsfeld produced many many photographs and all resemble this one. None shows scenes of brutality, I do not want to say by there that there was none. But of many scenes that we are shown do not prove any particular brutality. Here another arrival and completely at the far end, you can see on the left a chimney and then on the right another chimney. Well, on the left it is the chimney of Krema 2 and on the right it is the chimney of Krema 3. I expected, according to the legend, something absolutely gigantic. However that appears quite modest to me, quite plain. (05:00)

Here is the photograph, known as: the woman with the scarf. Well this woman is looking at Krema 2 and she has behind her Krema 3. On the left the chimney is cut out by the photograph but here is this Krema which we expected to see absolutely gigantic and located in an extremely secret location. Here, we have a photograph of Krema 2 or Krema 3 in its wholeness. The chimney does not make more than 7 meters. And if one could distinguish this photograph very close, one would see that there are a dozen men at work. It is in question here of a reconstitution made by a Russian. The building remains small in spite of the effect of prospect which one tried to give it. You notice that smoke was drawn, (06:00

as if these buildings expelled smoke day and night. On this point we will see what it is necessary to think. I will speak to you about it later. This is a model from the Auschwitz museum for Krema 2. A truck is discharging corpses. Here, one of the drawings which claim to represent what happened according to the legend. The semi buried left part was used apparently as cloakroom. People penetrated there, undressed from their clothing. Then on the right, semi buried also, the gas chamber. It is a model which is simplified. We will see one now that is more complicated and which I ask you to give all your attention. (07:00

This model, I present it to you in 2 distinct photographs. On one side, a photograph which represents people penetrating in the cloakroom and undressing themselves, and on the other side, a photograph which represents to you an accumulation of corpses of gassed people. This model should be universally known. Finally here are how the things occurred! However, this model is not known. It is quasi unknown. Why? Because it is absurd. It makes it possible to touch with your fingers the nonsense of the Polish reconstitution. Indeed, how could one make penetrate 2 000 corpses in the second photography, the one where you see the piled up corpses? How could one extirpate them? (08:00

Since each furnace can only burn one corpse in 1 hour and a half. There were 15 furnaces. That made 15 corpses in 1 hour and a half. It would have been necessary to consume the whole of the piled up corpses, more than 8 days. And all that in the middle of the hydrocyanic acid fumes that all the world's systems of ventilation could not have extirpated. Imagine that the commander of the Auschwitz camp who was named Hoss, whose name is not to confuse with Hess, confessed and said to Poles that the members of the commando penetrated thus in this room full of corpses while smoking or while eating without gas masks, to withdraw corpses. It is absolutely impossible. (08:58

I repeat that Zyklon B is flammable and explosive. Voilà thus what one asks us to believe. Voilà what is radically impossible. If this room existed, it could certainly not be a gas chamber. Let’s carry foward to the plans because they do not lie. You see that there are 5 furnaces plus a furnace to burn litter. Thus litter was brought, therefore there was no secrecy. I present to you this time a great plan, which is a capital part. It is the overall plan of Krema 2. It reveals us the reality of the things. And reality is that the 2 rooms are buried, that are buried, (10:00

were by no means a cloakroom and a gas chamber, but quite simply, like it appears but it is not very readable for you probably, it was what Germans called: Leiche Keller 1, Leiche Keller 2, Leiche Keller 3. It was actually...

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(00:04)... buried cold rooms. Why buried? Precisely to protect them from heat. The one on the left is 50 meters long on 8 broad. The one at the bottom, 30 meters long on 7 meters broad. They are, you notice it, in dead end. Let us look closely at Leiche Keller 1. It has a door which could be opened from both sides, which is nonsense for a gas chamber. At the top and on the right figures here a very small forklift of 2 meters 10 out of 1 meter 35, which would be of ridiculous size to transport thousands of bodies from here towards the furnaces room. (01:00

And I would like to tell you an anecdote in relation with this plan. One day, I wanted to submit to this plan to a French specialist manufacturer in crematoriums. And I observed this specialist while he looked at the plan. I noticed that he was interested in the disposition of the furnaces and that he seemed to neglect all the remainder. I then asked him: "And the remainder?" and he gave me a curious answer. He said to me, as if that went without saying: "The remainder must be of 7-8 meters". I said to him: "You are right, the room on left is 8 meters broad, and the one at the bottom is 7 meters broad". But I added: (02:00

"But why do you tell me 7-8 meters? What does it mean in your mind". He answered me: "It is the usual width of cold rooms". It is then, and only then that I made him notice that there was indeed the word of Leiche Keller and that it was indeed a cold room. He then provided the following explanation to me about this width of 7-8 meters. He said to me: "It is usual because one envisages on a side 2 meters for a corpse, on the other side 2 meters for another corpse, and then, between the 2, a space of 3-4 meters for the carts motion around the retaining pillars". I then said to him: "Well you see, people usually say that this place was a gas chamber". (03:02

Then, with a little astonished manner, the specialist answered me: "It is surprising! Knowing the Germans as I know them, because I work with them, I suppose that if they had wanted to make a gas chamber, they would not have made a cold room ". I would like here, to add, that it should not be thought that these places were constantly and in all corners, full of corpses. The plan that we have is only ground plane. It unfortunately does not provide us details on the precise disposition of the places. Look at Leiche Keller 3 for example. Do not imagine that it was a place full with corpses. By a plan that I do not show you here, I can say to you that there was in fact: an office, a small corridor, (04:00

a small room where the gold teeth were extracted, it is true, and a place called Tresor Raum (treasure room) where one put aside the values found on the corpses. This is a sectional representation, not only of the furnaces, but of Leiche Keller 1 and 2. One realizes that on the left, the furnace had a chimney which did not exceed 7 meters. As for Leiche Keller 1 and 2, one sees that they exceeded the ground a little. Their heights were 2 meters 40, they were quite simple and quite naked rooms. We see it better on this section. This photograph is completely exceptional. It was taken by somebody (05:00

who achieved the performance to work himself in under the ruins of Krema 2. Indeed it is said to us that Germans had blown up the Kremas before leaving. What besides, is possible, but constitutes at the same time nonsense. If they had wanted to hide the trace of their crimes, it would not have been necessary that they blew it. Because if you blow it, the concrete blocks go up in the air, fall down, and the traces of the crime are below. Well it is possible to slip under the ruins of Krema 3, and here is the photograph of the ceiling. You notice that it is a naked ceiling, a concrete formwork, and one even sees in this site the trace of a piece of wood which because of the cold, because that was built in winter, remained stuck to the ceiling. I see here, absolutely no trace (06:00

of these famous showers by which the gas, says one, arrived. I now arrive at Krema 4 and 5. I spoke to you about Krema 1, located at Auschwitz 1. Then I told you about Krema 2 and 3 located at Auschwitz 2. I now arrive at Krema 4 and 5 also located at Auschwitz 2. One seldom speaks about it, and for a good reason. It is that one reaches here the height of nonsense. Krema 4 and 5 were smaller, although having 2 chimneys instead of one. Here is the plan. Here are 2 chimneys with the furnaces room. Here is what is supposed to be the cloakroom. Then, in smaller, here is what is supposed to be 3 different gas chambers. (07:00

Below, you have the plan. You will excuse me it is reversed. I.e. the chimneys are placed here. Here the cremation room. We are thus told this: It is that one made people enter in this room. They were stripped. Then they were brought, look closely, in 3 small rooms located here. 1, 2, 3. One would gas them then one would bring back the bodies here.... And one proceeded finally to the cremation. It is a curious round-trip. The truth is different. The truth; here it is. This time, I restored the crematorium's location where it must be. (08:01

Here are its 2 chimneys, here thus the cremation room. Here a vast room which could be the mortuary. Then we had indeed, in German, Arzt Zimmer (the doctor’s room). Then, we had a place where coal was stored, and not hull. The kitchen was here, for the furnaces. And if there was coal, it is that the 3 small rooms, you see, contained stoves. Stoves which one heated them up by introducing coal from outside. So what were stoves doing in a room, or in rooms where people would have been gassed? What is more amusing, (09:00

if one wants in this lie, I go back to the first blueprint, it is that we are told that the SS, to gas the unfortunates: took a ladder, opened the small window which you see here, another there, another from behind, introduced Zyklon, closed the window or made it close, and then people thus perished. In other words, the tale is so absurd that it supposes the following process: the SS went up on his ladder, undoubtedly knocked at the window, kindly requested people to open it, people opened, he scattered Zyklon and he asked them to close again the window and to die peacefully. Here is at which nonsense one arrives so long as the places are scrutinized. (10:00

We have all kinds of documents on construction, on... of these gas chambers. I will show you a whole series of it by commenting them very little simply to prove you that Germans did not make of it a deal of secrecy. Here a first photograph, one sees engineers and workmen at work. Here are furnaces and here rails in front of the furnaces. Here finished furnaces. Here Krema 4 or Krema 5 in construction with workmen on the roof. Here another photograph...

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... (00:02) of the same kind. Another one. Still another. Here Krema 4 or 5 under the snow. Here still under the snow. And here still in construction under the snow. The following photograph is more important. It shows K 4 or K 5 with walkers on the snow. You see that there was no secrecy. And you note, at the far end, the small windows by which the SS were supposed to scatter gas up on a ladder. This scene is presented to us, at Auschwitz museum, like a scene known as gassing. (01:00)

However actually, we see corpses like from typhus, and smoke, perhaps burnt wood smoke to fight the odor. Here, another photograph which people dared to call: gassing scene. These are naked women who were taken photographs surreptitiously. There, old women in their shelter. It’s a document of Soviet origin. That was taken with the release. These old women in fact are reenacting a scene. For my part, I thought that old women were gassed in Auschwitz, it should be believed that not. They are seen here quite alive. This photograph represents (02:00

2 corpses of children on the ground, then 1 child standing, then an old woman standing. I showed this photography to doctors and here are the comments given to me: the child standing is in good health, the woman suffers from edema of malnutrition apparently at the sight of her hands. As for the 2 children, they died in their beds and were taken from their beds to be put outside and to be photographed outside. (02:47

Here, it’s children at the time of the release, apparently children were also gas (in Auschwitz), it should be believed that these were not. I must add on this subject that many children were born in Auschwitz. (03:00

Jewish children, children of Gypsies, Pole children. And there is a work which all specialists should know that is called: The Anthology of Auschwitz, where it is question of studies which were made precisely 20 years after the war. I.e. in 1965 about the children who were born in Auschwitz and who had become adult meanwhile. This photograph is of Soviet origin. It is relatively little known. It shows released children. Children released from Auschwitz around January 27, 1945. They are accompanied by nurses and nuns. (04:00

Here you have the interior of the shelters of Auschwitz 2 or Birkenau and in messiness of course since, under Germans it was not like this. And on the gate-posts, the wooden gate-posts, you see formulas like: "Be honest" or "Speech is silver, silence is gold". Formulas a little bit boy-scout. At the museum behind a window are exposed vestiges of Kremas. And I believe that these vestiges are very important. Indeed what is interesting is that each objects that is shown there can attest of the existence of crematoriums, but none, not the least, not the least material object can attest the existence of gas chambers. There is not the weakest material clue. (05:00)

I could show you many photos of the ruins of Kremas but I think that this one will be enough for you. Indeed, it’s the ruins of the alleged gas chamber of crematorium 2. See at which point it is Lilliputian compared to all what one can represent, compared to all we can be told. At the bottom on the left, what you see, are settling tank. During the war, the Allies took air-photographs of Auschwitz. These photographs were revealed to us only very recently. And they prove that gas chambers could only be imaginary. The Allies supervised Auschwitz very closely because of its considerable industrial importance. From December 1943 to january 1945, (06:00

they carried out 32 air-missions from the base of San Severo in Italy. Not one of its missions showed the crematoriums spitting smoke nights and days. Not one of the photographs taken showed human crowds stuck together near Kremas. However in the mission reports, as soon as there is trace of smoke or vapor trace, it is mentioned. Consequently, the observation was extremely precise. Let us look at this slide. Among all the photographs I chose this one which dates from August 25th, 1944. It apparently was the time when gassing reached its highlight. However, what do we see? At the top on the right we see very well Krema 2 and in mirror Krema 3. Let us see this Krema 2. We see very well the solid shadow of its chimney. No trace of smoke. (07:00

We see the 2 Leiche Keller. Leiche Keller 2, supposed to be a cloakroom, and Leiche Keller 1, supposed to be a gas chamber. No crowd appears in the neighborhoods. And instead of a ground which should be trampled, we have at the bottom on the right a well drawn garden. We have a gate which is opened. Nothing hides this place of the remainder of the camp. I estimate that these air-photographs, of which I give only one example here and who were revealed to us in 1969, should carry the coup de grâce to the gas chambers legend. I add an issue. I add that the allied information services technicians had a crowd of considerable information about Auschwitz. On its factories, its camps. They knew up till the names of the engineers. And they even knew that some of them drove 70 km by car to go to work. (08:00)

If there had been in Auschwitz the slightest undertaken extermination, there is no doubt that the British or American aerial observation services would have been immediately advised. I would like to speak to you about Zyklon B. One makes a whole mystery around this product. However this product, I said it to you, existed since 1917. It was employed and one employs it still today like disinfecting and insecticidal. One has thus employed it for 54 years. It is sold in Paris. It is a dangerous product. It requires nearly 24 hours of ventilation to penetrate with a mask in a room that was treated with Zyklon. I thus repeat that we are laughed at when it is said to us that almost immediately after the gassing of 2 000 people, the members of a special commando could come on the spot to remove the corpses and that they flippantly did it either while eating or while smoking. (09:00

Today Zyklon is still used in France, in Europe, in the United-States and it even kept its name. Here a work, which goes back to 1972 and which shows us a booklet, hum... praising the merits of Zyklon B. Zyklon could be presented as discs. We can see here men spreading discs of Zyklon in a flour mill. You will note that they carry masks. It can be also presented in the shape of pellets. Here, we can see 2 men proceeding to the gassing of a burrow of foxes. Although they are in the open air, they carry masks. Here the gassing of a coffee warehouse. Here the gassing of a ship. (10:00)

Here a mobile gas chamber, which could very well have given rise to the myth of mobile gas chambers. The 2 photographs which I will show you are far from known. They are of Soviet origin. They show us the containers of Zyklon B. You notice 2 deportees. You notice...

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(00:07)... 2 Russians. And behind, note the shape of this door. Well, we are told here, we were told in 1945, that it is here that the gas chamber was. However this place today, is several kilometers from the place that today one makes us visit as gas chamber. And that you can note it in a very simple way, notice the shape of the door, better reproduced here, you do not find by no means what at the tourists today is presented as being at Auschwitz 1, the gas chamber. There is thus, deception once more. The Russians during a certain time decided to say that the gas chamber was at such place, then, thereafter the Poles changed opinion. (01:00

It should be understood, consequently, that what the Russians show us here like homicide gas chamber was actually a not homicide gas chamber or a deposit of Zyklon B. The issue is very simple. There was confusion between not homicide gas chamber and homicide gas chamber homicide. The historian Henri Amouroux has habit to say that on the chapter of the Second World War: "One lied, lied a lot". One can only approve it. And the gas chambers constitute an example of these lies. I will take a known example of lie. It is the one of the Dachau gas chamber. Here for example, a very well known photograph which circulated in the whole world and which represents an American soldier in front of (02:00

the alleged Dachau gas chamber. Actually, it’s a disinfection gas chamber. This photograph is about also known. It represents American officials dismayed visiting what one calls: the gas chamber of Dachau. On which, I repeat it,  were very many testimonials. Well today what do we see? Today and since 1960, one recognizes that there never were gas chambers in Dachau. Here the official inscription in 5 languages such as it can be read today. I read the French version. For Dachau, gas chamber: camouflaged “shower” -  was never used. In other words, there never was gassing. What is interesting, it is that the officials of Dachau allow themselves to call this room: (03:00

gas chamber. They do not have any reason to do it. And I asked them the question. I said to them: "On what basis can you baptize ‘gas chamber’ a room that was never used as such? A room of which you tell us was begun in 1942 and not finished in 1945. How can one know that a room not finished is intended to become once finished, a thing that one never saw in his life? "Well, of course I never got an answer on this issue. Here is thus an example of lie, and an official lie. But one could multiply the examples of deception. Here is an example. Look at this double photograph. At the top, some men, which one could not say besides if they were photographed in a German camp or elsewhere, and at the bottom, (04:00

the same ones but with at their feet accumulated corpses. One found that that was not enough, so, they added some. Here a photograph which appears today in a history handbook distributed to the children of France and which is judicious to represent a gas chamber. However, think one moment. It is quite simply a bathroom. There are panes. In a gas chamber you would not be likely to have panes. It would be enough to break them and all would be finished. I finish with the photograph of Mrs. Simone Weil. And why? It is not that I want to hold it against her especially. Everyone knows that she was deported at Auschwitz and that she suffered there. But here which is very interesting. Guess what, that Mrs. Simone Weil was born Simone Jacob. She is born on July 13, 1927. However, officially this Simone Jacob, born on July 13, 1927 in Nice, (05:00

was recorded as gassed on April 16, 1944 in Auschwitz. Mrs. Simone Weil was not gassed, she lives. She's part of those who claim that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz. She admits not having seen anything of such but she certifies us that the gas chambers existed. I say for my part that it is a religious act of faith and that it does not have anything scientific. And thus we were invented innumerable gassed forgeries. I arrive to my conclusion. I will say this. The belief in gas chambers is a kind of religious belief. It is a belief: eyes closed. And what I only suggest to you is to open up your eyes. To learn how to see the texts, the documents, the photographs (06:00

with your own eyes. George Wellers wrote to answer me because I had said that gas chambers had not existed, he wrote a book which is called: The gas chamber existed. I recommend to read his book. But try to know to read it closely. And look at how one can seek to mislead people and to make words say what they do not say. To begin with, make a very simple thing. Look at the photographic documentation of this book. You will notice that Mr. George Wellers, in 1980-1981, did not dare to give only one photograph of only one gas chamber. Or of what could resemble a gas chamber. He shows us the crematoriums and he relies on our credulity to see gas chambers there. 100 times, I proposed a debate (07:00

with those which I call the exterminationist. I call exterminationist those who believe that the exterminations and the gas chambers existed. Never they accepted this debate. Instead of that I am covered with insults and I am dragged in justice. French justice for its part answered very recently that it did not have the right to decide in terms of history. Nevertheless, it condemned me very heavily . Why? Well because according to it I cause wrong to the deportees and in particular to Jews by denying the existence of the gas chambers and the genocide. I say that that is an opinion. For me, as a researcher I should make pleasure or displeasure to nobody. I must be worried neither about Pierre nor of Paul. In any event, it is necessary to say the truth. It should be sought in any case. (08:00) 

It should not be hidden. Even if the courts think the opposite. I have respect once more, I insist of underlining it, for the true sufferings of true deportees. I have respect for the sufferings of Jews. But over all I believe that it is necessary to have respect for the truth and the research of the truth. It is in any case my duty and I believe that my duty, it is yours too. 


Aufbarunsraus is not the actual word. If a German or someone who know German can tell us the real term, so be it. Same for the other terms in German.