As you should recall, in our last episode of
The
Flight 77 Controversy, Sam Danner defended himself against
his son's accusations that he was lying
On 8 Aug 2006 Russell Pickering provided the following voice and e-mail
messages from Sam Danner in which Sam admits he lied
about seeing the Global Hawk!
Why waste your time watching television shows when real-life has this
type of drama!
Sam's Danner's Voice Messages
to his son Matthew Danner
The messages were given to me by Russell Pickering who described them
as:
"This file was prepared by Wing TV in preparation for an interview
with Russell Pickering regarding the Sam Danner eyewitness story on August
11, 2001. It has been edited in the following manner:
1) Personal information regarding the family has been deleted at the
request of Matthew Danner.
2) The dead space between messages has been deleted.
3) Any "pregnant pauses" in between speech, in order to maintain continuity,
and some of the "uhhs" and "but you knows", as they were repetitive and
their removal didn't change the context of what Sam Danner had to say.
Any questions about me personally can either be answered by reading
the emails on this page and listening to the voice mails Sam left me or
I can verify them to select individuals for the purpose of clearing this
up. The things said about me in this series of recordings were untrue in
regards to who I am and who I know."
I will provide a link to WingTV's audio file when it is posted. To reduce
file size, I made it mono instead of stereo:
AllOfSamsMessages.mp3
1.2 mb
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Sam Danner posted the following message at the Loose Change forum. Danner
admits that he lied about seeing a Global Hawk fly into the Pentagon:
s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8567&st=60
| Posted: Aug 8 2006, 09:15 PM
Hello to all. First of all I am Sam Danner, Matthew Danners Father.
My son Means More to me than My own life and I would Gladly Die for any
of My Family members. What My son Matthew has told you is very True. I
was at Home when the world Trade centers were hit. Yes I got My son out
of bed and we watch it on TV. I lied to you the seeking Puplic on the Truth
about 911. My son only wanted to protect me. He Loves me. Even Today He
is up set with me for all of the Media Hype. A well meaning good Friend
of mine put Matthew and Myself as if we were Prize Fighters or something
over 911. Shame on My Friend and shame on me. Yes I was a Electrician for
Amtrak. No I was not there at Amtrak that day. I did however go to the
Pentagon on My own after the Building was Hit. The Pictures of me picking
up Rubble from a Suposed 757-300 from American Airlines are in Fact true.
I did not and I repeat Did not see Anything Hit the Pentagon. I lied about
the whole alleged Crash. However My encounter with Pentagon Officials Stands.
I was told that the Aircraft was a Global Hawk. From the parts that I picked
up I can not confirm nor Deny this. I was om the Micheal Collins Piper
Show at least 3 times and I was on Alex Jones show 1 times. I talked to
Dylan Avery 1 times. I was also in touch with a Movie Producer to do some
film Work. I am sorry that I lied to the American Free Press and I am sorry
to Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn. I am very Sorry to everyone on
this board. The reason that I lied about the Global Hawk was it added already
to a True story. I was At the Pentagon Later that Morning and yes it was
a very Confusing state. But someone Loved me so Much that He died for me.
I owe Him My life and that Person was Jesus Christ. Matthew I ask you in
Public. Do you forgive you Father? I love you Matthew.Oh Yes. I was NEVER
A FAA Licenced Pliot. How ever I had Many many Flying Lessons with FAA
Flight instructers. And I have Flown Different Model aircraft. Nothing
Lets me off the Hook My Friends. You got a Half Truth and I lied to you.
The people of the United States of America.
Tuesday August 8th 2006
Sam Danner |
Russell Pickering sent me the following e-mail messages between him
and Sam Danner so that you would know what they were talking about in the
days leading up to this confession by Sam Danner. Pickering's comments
about the email are in brown.
Note: I replaced the e-mail addresses with the names
of the people.
This is my very first email to Sam.
From: Russell Pickering
To: Sam Danner
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:46 AM
Subject: Hi Sam
Sam,
Give me a call if you get a chance.
Russell Pickering
This is my second email to Sam.
From: Russell Pickering
To: Sam Danner
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: Question
Sam,
I just read the email you sent to everybody.
I am an evil man? You are tired of me?
What have I done except for tell the truth and be honest? Caring about
9/11 and trying to keep people from lying about it is evil?
I never contacted you one time throughout this. You called me yesterday
and I have responded to your calls. I am trying to be fair and helpful
to you and your family.
Why would you be tired of me?
Because you know I know the truth and you are angry that I am defending
the honor of the Pentagon investigation?
Sam - you have caused this mess and nobody else.
Russell
From: Russell Pickering
To: Sam Danner
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:34 AM
Subject: Hello
Sam,
Please call me again today. We need to talk.
Russell
This is Sam's first email to me. Please post the
retraction he states regarding me and correspond it to the date in relation
to the interview you did with him about me.
From: Sam Danner
To: Russell Pickering
cc: Mike Piper
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Sam
It is done Russell. I am fed up with all of these experts. Russell you
may not be an Evil man. I retract that Statement and I am sorry I said
it. I have Many Multiple reasons for Cut and run. I do not know who to
trust. I do not know.
This is my third email to Sam. It is an attempt
to give him a fair opportunity to participate on the show about him on
the Piper Report.
From: Russell Pickering
To: Sam Danner
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Sam
Still call me so I can help. I am going on the show in 2 1/2 hours and
I want this to be as painless for you as possible.
This is my final email to Sam. That is a total
of 5 emails. I responded to him for the most part. This is NOT harassment.
When my phone records come today you will be able to see that and confirm
he lied about the calls from me. Note too that he never asked for me to
stop anything.
From: Russell Pickering
To: Sam Danner
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Verry Sorry
Sam,
I am very surprised to hear you are not going to tell the truth. You
have also not called me back yet which says a lot about your intentions.
I don't know if you fully understand what you are doing. You are taking
a situation where thousands of people have died and started wars where
thousands more have died and making a mockery of it. US soldiers and American
citizens have a right to the truth of what happened on 9/11.
You are purposefully creating deception for your own self glory out
of the greatest tragedy America has faced. I am very sad about this. You
don't seem to care about the reputations and good work of the media people
you are using, the thousands of people who are being deceived by your story
or your own family. These are not the actions of a "good American" as you
have referred to yourself.
I have been patient, fair and polite. You KNOW that I know you are lying.
I am now going to be forced to expose this fully via articles and radio.
I am sorry you have chosen this path.
Russell Pickering
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Russell Pickering sent me the following e-mails between him and Matthew
Danner (again, Pickering's comments are in brown, and email addresses were
replaced by names):
This is Matthew's first email to me. He was using
a different name until he found out if I could be trusted.
From: Ron Curry
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:21 AM
Subject: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
hey, is this the Russell Pickering that i saw on Dylan Avery's 9/11
forum?
If so......write me back. you're right about SD.
From: Ron Curry
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
i'm not going to go into detail...because well...i don't want anything
to do with this story...but i can tell you 100% without a doubt....Sam
Danner is lying.(well....80% truth, 20% bs). Trust me.....in the next couple
of days....the truth will be known.
From: "Russell Pickering"
To: "Ron Curry"
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:11:58 -0600
Can you call me 100% off the record. I promise. I am listening to his
Alex Jones interview now.
Please.
From: Ron Curry
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
dude...i'm in a tight spot. you'd understand if you knew what all was
involved with this. i just really do not want to get involved. i can't
believe he is on Alex jones now....... ..do alot pf people believe his
story? sorry if i'm holding back from saying anything....i just wanted
to let you know that you are right in your suspicions. if things haven't
changed in the next couple days...i'll tell you more. but please.....keep
this to yourself.
From: "Russell Pickering"
To: "Ron Curry"
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:05:12 -0600
100% secure.
People are buying into it and it is growing.
I tried since day 1 to stop it. He has at least one more radio show
this week.
It's your option to talk or not, but I would appreciate knowing the
truth.
It is an important topic.
From: Ron Curry
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
this sucks. plain and simple. can you tell me....how big a deal is this?
i mean, beyond just deceiving people...(wish i think is a big deal).....this
story isn't going to go mainstream national is it?
From: "Russell Pickering"
To: "Ron Curry"
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:34:25 -0600
It is a HUGE deal to me and the 9/11 Truth community.
This will ripple and many will latch onto it. Mark my words that it
will be discussed for months and quotes from it will be used for years
unless it is stopped.
I can't say if the mainstream will go with it, but if they do it will
be used to discredit the 9/11 Truth movement publicly.
I don't even have your real name I presume and your is a hotmail address.
I don't see where letting me know something is going to hurt.
I will not say anything unless I have your specific permission.
You have my word.
This is the first email of him telling me who
he is.
From: Ron Curry
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Danner .....9/11 pentagon......
okay....look dude....he is my father. i am extremely torn with this
stuff. i called him out on all of this stuff last week...and he told me
that he was finished...and that he was "dropping off the radar". i can
see now that he has no plans to stop. you see....part of this story is
true....he really was down there.....but not until after the "attacks"
happend. i talked to him about an hour ago..and he told me he was going
to tell the truth to all of his contacts this evening. if he doesn't...then
you have my word...i am ALL over this. i can't believe this has gone so
far.
i didn't even know about his "story" until after his first two radio
interviews......and i never imagined it would blow up this big. I am the
one responsible for getting him all hyped up about this 9/11 truth stuff
to begin with. the sad part is....his TRUE story would have gotten just
as much press as his false one. he really was there that day.....but he
just dug himself into a hole with these stupid lies and embellishments.
but then again....if you knew my father...this would all make sense. i'm
trusting you with all of this. i'm so bend out of shape i could puke.
oh btw....this isn't my real email account...i just made this one to
maintain some anonymity....because man...i really want nothing to do with
this mess....but i guess i am just as guilty for not speaking the truth....
This is the first one he sent me in his own name.
From: Matthew Danner
To: Russel Lpickering
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: matt danner....
hey man....this is the email addy i use now. i sent Michael Piper an
email......dude....i hope this all works out.
-matt
This is an email forwarded to me from Matthew
allegedly from Sam. Obviously it can't be proven since it does not have
Sam's original send file attached.
From: Matthew Danner
To: Russell Pickering
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: the samuel danner saga...
"Dear Matty:
Dr. Thorton said I may now have a Heart Problem and Lung issue, s due
to that Treatment I had at the Chemo place. This has Caused me Much depression.
As you well know I sent you and pickering and Piper and Chris and e-mail
saying that I lied about the whole thing. Well, as you know it did not
fly too good. So I am going to write another letter to Chris Bollyn and
in Greater detail. I was so confused as I was told the bad guy is Pickering.
Collins and Piper and Hufschmid still do not know Russell's real Identity.
Matthew I am very sorry that when I told the public I am that it did
not suit you. Mom woke me up at 12:15 AM in the Middle of the night and
screamed and yelled at me. She said that you were going to play Cell phone
tapes. Do what you have to do son. I deserve it. I sent everyone a e-mail
that I lied and I am going to contact Piper to make sure that He knows
I am the bad guy. I love you son. Your Heart is in the right place but
I wish you had never gotten involved with this,
Love, Pops"
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Sam
doesn't have any sensible explanation for why he lied. Because he and his
son are protective of Israel, my guess is that his wife (in the photo)
is Jewish, and since they were having marital problems, I suspect that
she and/or her Jewish relatives decided to sacrifice Sam for the good of
Israel. I suspect that they convinced Sam to pretend that he was a witness
to the crash at the Pentagon in order to discredit people like me, or to
confuse the issue of what happened that day.